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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Thu Dec 7th, 2006 02:01 am |
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| Alright, I need opinions here... what are the disadvantages and advantages of both of these feeds? If at all possible could you please say what it has or hasn't done for your market lambs... thank you so so much!
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Fri Dec 8th, 2006 11:58 pm |
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| Please... defend either High Noon or lamb slam.... i just need some information on what has worked and what hasn't!
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Brock Sapp
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Posted: Thu Dec 14th, 2006 03:08 am |
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| What company makes the lamb slam?
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Thu Dec 14th, 2006 04:05 am |
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| Showmaker makes the feed.
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Brock Sapp
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Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2006 12:52 am |
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Sheepshearin 16,
First off I have no affiliation with High Noon Feeds, second I am not a nutritionist so I won't debate the ingredients of the products I will leave that to the feed designers as this is a never ending debate. Here is what I will tell you:
1. I have tried three different feeds, Lamb Slam being one (however not sure if it's Lamb Slam by Showmaker), I have analyzed many different feeds and have had the ingredients tested, High Noon has been the most complete and consistent feed and it is designed for sheep specific.
2. We feed or advise feeders on about 200 market lambs per year, the consistency of handle, the athletic appearance and most important the health has far exceeded our expectations. Many of these feeders are first timers and these sheep grow and finish and are extremely competitive, no of this to fat to thin. The program High Noon has set up is very effective and offers performance plus.
3. If you read my testimony on the front that is no joke, we were always competitive, right on the verge never being able to close the deal, when we decided to make the switch we got immediate results and so did our family of feeders. The Sheep looked so athletic, handled fresh and stayed healthy, at that point we got over the hump both locally and nationally.
The feed flat out works for us. We utilize the additives, we played around with them until we got the right combination and it really simplified our rations. I use to look like a chemist mixing feed, a little of this a little of that.
This is my practical opinion based on our experiences over the last four years. I know what works in feed and the ingredients High Noon provides really works both practically and competitively.
If you would like to discuss further, shoot me you phone number and I will give you a call.
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2006 02:00 am |
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| So, you do use High Noon and you are very happy with the results you have by playing chemist and adding a bit of this and a bit of that...? Um, the lamb slam is sold by showmaker in a purple bag, i am not sure if that will help you remember if that is what you used or not... I really did like the results I had with the lamb slam, but I still think there is something more that would make my animal look it's very best... so, i am just researching on the feeds available in my area... I know I do not own the "champion" lamb, and I most likely never will being this is my last year in 4-H, but I would like to place as high in my class as possible... last year, my weight class was 149-168... a very wide range of weight I know. My lamb was a ewe lamb weighing 149... yeah, the smallest one in the class... and I placed 6th out of at least 30+ lambs. Every single lamb ahead of her was in the 165+, so i figured i would have had a weight champ. if the class wasn't so spread. So, i was happy with the lamb slam and I know how to feed it, obviously. But... I still think there is something more I can work on... most of it being my showmanship. Well, thank you for all of ur help and I will continue take opinions if you have any more!
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Brock Sapp
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Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2006 05:19 am |
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| What part of the country are you in?
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2006 02:57 pm |
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| I am from California.
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Brock Sapp
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Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2006 11:29 pm |
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| What part?
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Sat Dec 16th, 2006 02:18 am |
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| Monterey County
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Posted: Sun Dec 17th, 2006 05:00 pm |
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| Check the web site for the closest dealer or call Clint Cummings @ 805-550-9857
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Sheepshearin16
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Posted: Sun Dec 17th, 2006 09:50 pm |
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| Thanks
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Posted: Thu Jan 4th, 2007 11:11 pm |
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Alright, I do not yet own my lamb, but I will have her in less than a month. She will be anywhere from 70-90 pounds. I am a little lost on what to feed from High Noon. I have read and reread all of the input on the product pages, but I can't seem to pick which one I need to start with. Oh yeah, she will be 3 months old. Ok, so I can choose from max start plus, max developer, pro-show lamb feed, show lamb feed, and shine 'em up. I guess I just don't know where to start. If you need any more information on the lamb I am happy to give it. If you could help me at all I will really really appreciate it. Thank you so so much!
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Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2007 12:08 am |
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Sheep Shearin,
Need to find out from whom you are buying from what type of creep feed the lamb has been eating, you don't want to switch the lamb cold from one feed to another sometimes the will take right to it sometime they won't. If the lamb is between 70 -90, I would recommend the Max Start 90 product. The Max Start 90 allows the lamb to grow skelatally with a low amount of fat so as to get maximum growth. When you get your lamb let's discuss heath and feeding based on what type lamb you get.
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Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2007 12:13 am |
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| I have not yet decided if I am going to feed High Noon or not yet, but she will have been fed Ringmaster as a creep feed. She will be a suffolk lamb, and that's about all i know for now. I kinda need reasons as to why I should feed this feed over others, I have lots to choose from and no idea which one to use!
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Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2007 05:26 am |
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Sheep Shearin,
All I can tell you is our experience and a host a family feeders experiences with the feed, it's has been the easiest feed to feed that has out performed all other feeds over the 15 years we have been feeding sheep. If you want to get into the nutritional value of the feed, please contact Nick Ketzner or Mel Marx and they will talk nutrition with you all day. The feed and top dresses has worked great for us as well as many others.
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